June 24, 2026 Bicycle/Pedestrian Advisory Committee

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vice chair Bonte.

Okay. Member Wang present.

Barton absent. Member Stone. We have a quum. With that we will move on to item we have oral communication to the public. This portion be reserved for person wishing to address the committee on any matter not on the agenda. Speakers will be limited to three minutes. State law prohibits the committee from acting on non-aggenda items. Do we have any members of the public in the room? Please come to the lecture. But I need to we need to now figure out how to unshare this card.

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Hi, I'm Becky Wright, 30 plus year of Mountain View and I love riding my bike and I'm very happy that you all are serving on this committee. But tonight, what I really wanted to say was thank you for whatever input you had on the shoreline bicycle pedass construction that's going on now. that since I live over in Rex Manor, I take those paths and they have been bumpy forever and ever and horrible and I'm just so thrilled that that work actually taking place and so what for whatever part you all had in it to advocate for bicycles and pedestrians, I thank you very much. That's it.

Thank you.

Do we have any members of the public online? You can raise your hand or press star 9 on the phone if you want to speak. No. With that, we'll move to item four, the consent calendar. Um, otherwise it's just the meeting minutes. Does anyone want to pull anything from the consent calendar? No. Okay. Do we have any public comments on the consent calendar? I assume no one in the room. Do we have anyone online? All right. A motion to approve the consent calendar would be in order.

I move that we approve calendar.

I did. I'm sorry.

And number one seconded. Uh all in favor.

That passes unanim unanimously with the three present here. That moves us to item there's no one finished since that moves us to item 6.1 active transportation collision report and I believe we have present from

this is Lieutenant Goth from department and you have a presentation right both Oh, you have it up. Thank you.

As in the past, we've compiled the questions and used crime analyst majority of the answers. So, you want to go go to the first one? First question. So, first one was part of the problem with our uh dashboard. So one of the questions was about it was there was a answer for null. It was our rims database our current report rating system is uh rims and the data that transfers over is not uh working well. So that's been fixed on the dashboard.

Did you um say what the acronym is PCF for members of the public?

Sorry for beback members too. numbers

uh PCF is primary collision factor which is what is the cause of the accident. So what we attribute the primary cause of the the collision sorry and go to the next one. Uh using the dashboard as example could MBPD provide PCF by type of vehicle primary glitch factor by type of vehicle. Since wrong way is only shown for vehicles versus bicycles and based on observations I would assume the bikes were the wrong way. But it'd be good to have the actual data. And uh the analyst said that we can add that as recommendation for future iterations of the dashboard. And I think I'm probably repeating myself from last time I was here, but our Crossroads report writing software, we're still working out the kinks.

We're hoping to have that all turned on on July 1st. Right.

So there's been a lot of I'm not tech savvy so there's a lot of coding and language that needs to talk to each other. Our RMS system is the record maintenance system is how we keep track of all of our contacts and crossroads is having language digital language issues with providing that information. So we're hoping that turns on on July 1st and then a lot more of our analytics will be available and it'll be a lot better information. So uh we go next one the dashboard related bikes does MBPD have a breakdown on the type of bikes regular class one to three electric and motos and we don't and that's mainly due to the fact that the CHP collision form does not it up until recently it did not have a category for those different vehicle types. So the crossroad software is going to include this and CHP has their iterations of the the format change every year and they've added goheadeds like the electric goheaded they've added a category for onehe motorized boards. So, we're able we're going to be able to better analyze all that data going forward, but we're continuously getting new forms from CHP, including uh self-driving categories now for self-driving. So, all that data will going forward be available for us to pull from. Part of it too is the education for our officers on the class one to three. That's not an easy thing to comprehend. And we have

we're sending an officer software Hammond who's been here before I presented is going to a 40hour e device class to become an instructor. We're going to stand up a a pretty significant e device class that we're going to do town halls. We're going to do schools. Uh we're really starting to push forward on the schools. We're trying to get permits for the kids to to be able to bring their bikes, their ebikes to school and at the same time prohibit e motorcycles from coming to school. So that's all going forward. That's the stuff that we're it's working in the process. So next question. Uh what is MVPD doing to educate or enforce not writing wrong way? So this mainly stems or starts with our schools. So our school resource officers and our motor officers conduct uh bicycle education, bike rodeos with safe routes. We're working on that. We're trying to to coordinate with them. It's a partnership with them where we participate in their program. Uh that along with heavy enforcement the first week of school at the intersections majority of the kids are riding through. Uh other than that adults honestly we don't really usually it's more of like a motor officer with a PA getting on their PA speaker and telling them road. Uh I can't think of any times where we've been writing citations for that but it's usually verbal points. Uh how many traffic tickets have been issued to bikes, scooters, hoverboards for running red lights, etc. stats for the last six months. Again, this is not we don't have a a method for dividing the driver type on a citation. It's handwritten in that it's a bicycle instead of a car. So, that box is not populated into our data tracking system. The new crossroads e tickets that we're going to be getting, we're going to go away from paper tickets. We're e tickets and that has a category for bicyclist or every every different kind of category pedestrian driver bicyclist. So that will allow us to track that data better for that. I know that we have written I've personally written red light tickets uh to bicyclist on our targeted bicycle enforcement days. We're looking for and usually that's usually the kids at the schools but that was an adult. So I can't give an exact number of how many and do we have statistics on the overall number of traffic collisions for minor major injuries and deaths over the past several years. Uh this is what we're able to pull from our OTS office of traffic safety data that we've reported for the last three years. Uh there is some if you look at the dashboard there's probably some conflict in fatalss. We don't work fatal accidents that happen on private property and we've had a couple of those. One in particular was in the Walmart parking lot on a foggy day. Somebody was covered in a black blanket and was hit in the parking lot. So the RMS uh the record maintenance system data may show a fatal, but it's a fatal for vehicle collision, but it's not on a roadway and so we don't report that on a CHP form. So you may see a number that says three for uh 2023. I think the data said three, but it was really two that occurred on the roadway. And then just an update on our ebike safety. Like I was saying, uh they've recently developed a class for police officers. It's a 40-hour class. They just basically inundated everything that's e device related and it teaches the uh student how to put together their own program for the police department. Huntington Beach has kind of spearheaded this. They developed the program. So officer Hammond will be going to that. He'll be coming back and partnering with school resource officers to put together a fairly significant class. It'll probably be it'll coincide with a juvenile diversion. So, we'll issue juvenile division diversion tickets to the juveniles who are riding without helmets riding the wrong way. Then, they'll be required to come to a class with their parent. Same thing with the e uh the e devices. And the plan is to have town halls and required training. All the questions that come up with. Do you have other questions? Some of them were kind of together kind of long longer question. You know these implementations of these tickets you know for teachings only to children. I mean have you considered for seniors also the senior citizens? I see especially a lot of them from different countries who probably don't even speak English you know they just go the other way and then you know and then you know and then how you guys going to really you know teach them so I mean they're seniors too they're going to you know if I get into an accident not knowing where to go

so on the adult so the category for that type of stuff there's we have a program called live 25 so that's one avenue where anybody who's on the roadway and commits a violation if they're under 25 we can send them to the live 20 program live 25 program that's an online class requirement where if they complete that then this the citation doesn't get submitted to the court but that's within the constraints of the age and we don't we don't have anything for uh senior citizens for that would probably be more a warning and so the new the new e citations will have a warning option also so we don't we have written warning tickets but I don't think anybody uses them so it's usually they get a ticket they just get a verbal warning with the new system will be able to enter it as a warning in the system. It will track that that person's been given a warning and it'll go into our record maintenance system so that if we check them find out that they've already been warned for that. But as far as an education, there's not something that would we can offer that

any um I had a couple I realized at least one of them that I asked in advance didn't seem to me through. So um but actually first related to what you're mentioning, will the will officer Hammond's um e device instruction coordinate with our safe routs to school or any other things involve interacting with the students at our school with regards to active transportation. So as if those classes are held the bike ros are held prior to September. We the f soon as we can get them into the class in September. He's already kind of spearheading all of the so all the brochures that we put out recently the social media push that we've been doing he created those and he's been running that program. So he will be having additional training to do that. If the safe routes bike rodeos are occur before that it'll be him that's participating. he just won't have that class under his belt where he's created the whole program yet.

Right. That's good. I think the thing I'm more asking about just in general like I don't want for instance to end up with brochures going out that say one thing from the MBPD and then our safe routes school program putting out a brochure that says a slightly different thing that might confuse people or cause problems. Is there coordination going on?

We have a meeting with them.

Okay. Going up. I think

there is coordination. the safety officers are really engaged with the the school community. So we'll make sure we do have a meeting with them until

Okay.

to kick off our new contract.

Oh, with the safe practice schools.

Okay. Consultants. Yeah.

Um the I think I had a couple questions in mind about tracking of stolen bikes. I saw on the transparency dashboard that it looked like some had there was maybe a reduction this year and I had trouble telling if that was a real reduction or just it varies a lot and so maybe I shouldn't read anything into it. Do you have any I looked at the dashboard it did look it started out high.

Yeah.

And then it looked like it trended a lot lower.

Yeah.

Um I don't have the data from that. There's not a I couldn't get into that data. Okay. So, but the numbers, the total numbers I can access. Uh, if the question was which bikes are being sold more often, it's in my just in my experience as I'm seeing stuff come out, it's more almost 100% e the ebikes the the context is is the rate of like that trending up, trending down, is it something that we should be worried about? Should we be should we be paying more attention to providing secure bike parking or is it that things are actually working fine for most people and that there is albeit with some always persistent um uh that and so it's that's something where I I don't know if I should be reading too much into the statistics. So that's where I'm coming.

Statistics I believe are accurate and it showed to me it was a significant reduction across the last four four or five months. the beginning of the year was it was higher. January was higher.

But you do think it's it's focused more on bikes in the last couple years.

Yes. Okay.

And we had I think we had a fairly significant arrest recently. Somebody who was going into garages. Don't know if I got pushed yet, but I know our detectives. Do do you have any other?

Well, so I have one talking about collaboration making sure that you know safer to school and FPD has the same message. Is there coordination because there are thousands of kids from Mountain View go to school in Los Santos Mountain kids that could be confusing for them to hear different stories like you know based on

I'm not sure if Los Altos has save program

they have one I'm not sure if it says rout

and we've been in talks with them to make sure that our safe routes programs are coordinated um but for I don't know if the PD is talking to PD

so I know they don't have school resource officers I know our school resource officers help the city

with uh the school I'm not sure if they're in coordination with safe routes for Los Angeles

between departments I mean like like you know like sharing resources on training I couldn't speak to I don't know that would probably be the school resource sergeant would be able to answer that what what their participation is at Los Altos follow

yeah just you know I know jaywalking is permissible is jiking permissible I think

uh so the way that reads is if there is a collision caused by jwalking if the primary collision factor is jwalking then we can attribute it to that violation. But peace officers are not able to stop people who are jaywalking. We're prohibited from doing that now.

Right.

Any of it. If you're in the street, it's it's an unclear section. It's got to be the way it's defined is that if the person in the roadway is a hazard to passing traffic, then it's it's a violation. But if they're crossing and they're not causing the car to slow down or swerve or anything like that, then it's not a violation. We're not able to stop them.

Yeah. I mean, these bikers sometimes they just think that they're, you know, they're all that and so then they could just pass so fast and when they're not as careful. So,

so if if a bicyclist is operating the bike in an unsafe way, the vehicle code does allow for them to be stopped for a violation. If they're making an unsafe lane change just like a car would, then it would apply. then we can stop them and they can begin citation.

Right. Moving to public comment on the active transportation collision report. Do we have any members of the public in the room wishing to comment on this? We have any members of the public online. All right. Do we have any comments from the committee to uh or I guess if there are any questions to Lieutenant Go. Thanks for you know answering our questions. Hopefully we don't repeat ourselves too much.

Yeah, thank you for the responses. Uh it is it is helpful. I want to make sure we're maintaining our relationships. Um I would if if once that data becomes available from Crossroads, I won't be surprised if Deepak and other members of the public are interested in going to look at that. So if that gets forwarded or noted somewhere that beans or through Lauren

it will probably make its way out of the dashboard in a more uh tangible way of understanding information. So

yeah there are some people in this community who love to get at the raw. So, it's it's going to be much better.

And yeah, I and I appreciate the attitude towards uh e devices of making sure that we try to make it so that kids and adults can use ebicycles that they're allowed to use to not have to drive as much, but getting people who are riding motorcycles around illegally. There's going to be there's going to be a very clear enforcement effort and I encourage a continued collaboration with our transportation department all that. Um, with that I think we're good on this item and we'll move to item 62 the OAG for complete streets checklists. I believe we have our presentation from

Yes. But we also have Robert Gonzalez here who can speak to the actual projects if you have questions about the projects. So um this is not an action item. is a discussion and um

photo right um so we're asking the BPAC to review and provide comments on the Metropolitan Transportation Commission complete students checklist for the one Bay Area grant applications to be submitted by city view. So, um, one Bay Area grant is a transportation funding source that's administered through BTA. It is administered or it opens up, uh, in this county, it's administered by VTA. It opens up about every four years. and um the city of Mountain View took a look at projects that were in the pipeline, the scoring criteria for the OAG grant and where the projects were in their in their phasing and their ability to get completed within the timelines required by the grant. And we selected two projects. Um everything is in your packet. There are two intersection projects on El Camino. One is the El Camino Rial Cauldron Avenue Phillips Avenue intersection improvements. We will be asking for funding for design and construction for that one. And the second one is El Camino Rial Castro intersection Castro bikeway improvements and we will be asking for construction funding for that because we already have funded the design. Um rather than go through the projects, I'm just going to point out that we have in the packet um checklists for each of the projects. So, the MTC, which is the ultimate uh entity that has the funding source, requires that part of the grant application, we fill out a complete streets checklist for each project and bring that checklist to the BPAC for review of the checklist. And the primary goal of the DPA review is to look at the project itself, look at the checklist and make uh see if there's anything we are missing in terms of um different plans and and efforts that the city has that relate to the project and also are there any components in the project that um don't meet the the goals of So, it's really to provide feedback on the checklist and make sure what we've developed is is reasonable, make sure it's something that the lay person can understand and comments on the checklist. If you want to also provide comments on the scope of work or have questions about the scope of work, Robert's here to provide uh responses to that. And um with that, I will open it up for conversation. And if you want, I have the checklists uh on my computer and I can share them if you want to point out a certain area in each checklist. questions on the clarifying questions on each me. Well, I actually um have a view about the you know because another you know I run a bike and it's safety thing for me about about seeing other you know bikers you know running the red and um and also I mean part of the plan is about age and visibility kind of the plan that should be incorporated into the I'm sure you know that already but so I mean the the new the two the two the two projects that's going to go in how How is it uh going to have some sort of like a a signal to the to the pass to the driver to the bikers and also it'll help the drivers too if there's a signal about that this is actually a one lane pathway bike path you know rather than rather than just you know let's just have a green lane and then a lot of the bikers don't know that it's just you know one way and they think that they can go to the other way. Uh is there any kind of some sort of sign or some sort of a notice to them? Uh trying to share follow through.

Yeah, thanks for the question. Robert Gonzalez, I'm principal civil engineer at the civil infrastructure group. Um at this point in the project, we are really starting out the design process. So um um Lauren Leb better mentioned kind of the the competitive competitiveness in selecting projects that were uh could be delivered in that one to four year time frame. So the Alamina Royale um patrol project is just starting out on the design and the Cderon Alamina Royale project has not begun yet on the design. So, I think that's actually a really good design detail that we can go into in the design process and evaluate that. You know, a class two bike lane is a class two bike lane. So, it's going to be striped as a class two bike lane, but there may be options to look at signage that in addition to that show, you know, wrong way. I know on California if you're cycling the wrong way, um if you if you're if you're opposite traffic, you could you'll see a sign that says, you know, bikes wrong way. So we can look at adding that type of signage into

lane the lane is so small and then you know it's so easy for one yeah then the yeah the other thing is besides this just that okay and also you know no for the bikers the drivers I think that there should be some sort of a fairness too for the drivers so that they don't feel like you know because I talked to a lot of drivers they hated when that they the bikers they just run the red run the stop you know and so that maybe there's some sort of some sort of like a sign for the bikers to also let them know that they should follow the rules too and not just be, you know, arrogant driving thinking that they're, you know, being good for the society and for the air.

So, and we can take this as a general comment as well because these are two intersection improvements. There's only so much you can do at one intersection to to manage this sort of behavior. But this is this is something that we can take in as a general comment and look for ways to explore that through our educational pro projects and through our corridor projects our delivery cycle bike infrastructure.

That'll happen.

I want to note that I was able to finally screen share. So this is one of the projects. This is the Castro Street project. And so these are in your packets. The other one, this is the um Cderon Phyllis Avenue one. So this red is the ext the the limits of the project itself. And then this is a concept that was developed through the um El Camino Royale Streetscape plan. I'll try to zoom in a little bit so you can just see these are very conceptual and we're putting these in the grant application and then you know if we receive the funding we'll do the design work to validate that that what's proposed here is something that's feasible

questions. Yeah. So I mean thanks for answering questions I had one around you know who who owns what and who's in charge of what on you know Um so you know the there is talk about changing some signal signs you know lights and and things like this. So you know and and for my experience when whenever I see a broken light I mean I've tried to reach sometimes Los Altos sometimes view and every time I'm I'm sent back to Calrance.

Yes. So I'm wondering if for for all this money that we're going to put here to put new signals or things like this if we're going to still be dependent on on CLR to to kind of manage it or fix it or uh so this project won't change the fact that is Calr's right away. We don't want that to to change the fact we want them to take responsibility for the rightway that they own and operate. Um we have proposed projects along El Camino that the the city is sponsoring it we're investing in. So for example when u Calrans did the pavement maintenance u a few years ago last a couple years ago um we approached the the CALR and volunteered to contribute to put in the bike infrastructure. Uh they will maintain the bike infrastructure if it is to their design standards. Um same thing with the signal infrastructure. We would voluntarily improve that uh bring in grant funding or city funding to upgrade those that signal infrastructure but we would still be reliant on CALR. They would be responsible for the maintenance and operations of the signals.

Yeah. Because I mean for the public it's a bit challenging to know who to contact. There's there are

once you contact trans

there are very few local jurisdictions that have voluntarily take on trans right away. Um I can there's just a handful and many of them just see that as an additional budgetary burden that we're already struggling to to find um uh the budgets the operating budgets that we need to maintain the infrastructure that we have and taking it on whether it's county infrastructure or CALR infrastructure we need them their their help and their funding to instruction that they have that would be several signal have to take Um could you since it's not mentioned briefly the verify questions is there anything to elaborate on the um infrastructure elements being considered for these I saw that was in terms of store water retention for at least the phyis one but I wasn't sure if there's any more detail to call out Yeah, I I mean I'll start and Robert if you want to jump in. I for the Phyllis and El Camino Phyllis Cauldron El Camino one there may be some space or opportunities to be able to provide green infrastructure. We'll have to get into that with the design. I do believe that with the Castro one there's less space. Uh you want to confirm?

Yeah, that's correct. So like I said before, we're early in the designs. We don't have details. I will mention that um going back to the CALR element here. One of the more more important things is to understand um who would who would maintain the infrastructure and whose property would that infrastructure ultimately be on. So at some intersections, I'm thinking about the Elmont Esquea intersection, the um the Calrans rideway is much is very expansive. So much of that intersection we're we're considering putting in green infrastructure and we're we're actively talking to Calrans about taking credit for the investment that we're putting in there. This one is a little a little bit simpler. I think the um the ride ofway is very close to the crosswalk on both sides on the north side and the the Calderon side and the Phillis side. So I think it's it's pretty clear that the infrastructure the green infrastructure will be on city property but that is something that we want to confirm as we go through the design process. Um don't know who will answer this question but pulling on the thread of the uh I asked a clarifying question about the Castro Commons project I wanted to understand my impression when this project originally so just to make sure that we all understand what the current this diagram is showing that is showing a maintenance of or parallel parking along the northbound side of Casture Street for that entire block and once Castro Commons implemented there will no longer be that road that's in the middle in the satellite imagery anymore and instead just be a PO and so that's why the the parking is all the way along there. Is that all a correct description of the what this diagram is showing?

I'm gonna ask.

Hi, Ed. Orango, the worst director. Um, so this concept um that you're looking at here is I want to say it's four or five years old.

Can I get um manager letter better to help me? Is it 2021 2022?

I think I think that's where it started but I think it last I think it last had some public meetings in 23 but I think got started before this.

I think that that states this um well before the Castro Commons project.

So when the Castro Commons project came in I mean we were looking at this frontage and we were trying to align what we want to do here with what they want to do along the frontage. So this isn't exactly how it's gonna the number of parking spaces that are parallel. They're they're needing some parking spaces taken away so they can provide uh a trash loading and unloading for their facility. Um so it's kind of closer to Yusede. Those spaces were looking at removing and making that trash pickup drop off area. Um and so and other revisions along it. generally it's close to it but it's not this exactly. So I just want to kind of provide that context that during the castro common view of the development entitlements we did working with the developer manipulated this just a little bit it's still the intent but it's not exactly like this number of spaces may change.

Okay. And does the does the city have any commitments to the developer regarding the number of street parking spaces that are along this frontage or is that just regarding the the city's making sure to provide the access for trash pickup and the such?

Yeah. No number of spaces are there's a commitment that so we we have flexibility. We we try to avoid taking away parking spaces because we know there's a large demand in downtown. Um so we limit that. So we were very um prudent about confirming how many spaces we removing. Can we limit that for what they need?

And but the expectation is the expectation that the the spaces here would predominantly be used by tenants whether commercial retail or customers of that Castro commerce project which will cover the whole that whole block. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, we really envision that the um the use of the parking spaces would be by customers, you know, because it's going to be mixed use um as well as just those who just want to visit further down and they can't find parking right in front of um other blocks, the retailers, they might park here as well.

Okay, I have things to comment on in that regard, but I'll say that for a comment section.

Clarify on the current setting. Is the parking parallel or or is it angled?

It's angled today. And if I'm not mistaken, it's a little bit off straight, right? In a way. So, so I mean, it's not flush with I mean, you know, right now that it's angled, but it goes inside the the sidewalk kind of.

Yeah. The parking stalls and the sidewalk are separated by um stairs.

Yeah.

Uh and so it's separate, but it's it's an area of um off street. Sorry. Outside of the vehicle lane.

Yeah. Yeah. So, so that's kind of off street parking.

Yeah. And then um then the sidewalk. So,

so would it be the same setup here or in other words, would it be it would be parallel parking instead of angled? So, you can see here all the

would it be kind of encroaching on the sidewalk kind of?

Oh. Um I I think what we for the Castro comment

we reclaimed the sidewalk and then it's going to be

we reclaimed um so we were reallocating space recognizing that we wanted to provide a bike lane on Castro and so we had to reallocate the space. So um the sidewalk I think generally is going to stay about the same. Um, but now we we get a bike lane on both sides of the street out of it and then we can only fit parallel parking there instead of the angle. I think that's all I had on that. One more question. Oh. Uh, the nature of those city- owned lots near the both sort of Phyllis and that small side street whose name I'm blanking on and at the corner building is the plan basically just for those do those have any special reservation for things in city's plans or are they basically just we may use them for green elements or storm water retention or whatever?

I do not know the answer to that question. I just had no idea those were even sitting on property. So that surprised me.

Okay.

All right. In that case, we have another you know those corner corner islands that people put right. So I mean have they been shown to be effective? Do you guys know anything about that? I don't I don't know. So I don't know why um you know these corn islands would it be safe for the pedestrians? I know they would probably just want to jump onto it, you know, in terms of street lights or anything.

Go ahead.

I can start, but I'm going to defer to my transportation um managers expertise here. My understanding is that these are very protective elements there. They they they are places for refuge in the same way that you would have a refuge island whether used to be just in the median um when you were crossing a street but these are places where particularly if you have a raised curl at one point to the Charleston um Shoreline Boulevard intersection uh that was improved eight years ago um but that has raised med that has raised protective islands and it provides uh both bikes and peds a place to kind of uh stage themselves as they're waiting for for a light. So, yeah, it would take it would take a much higher design speed for a vehicle to actually mount that and get get through it. So, it's very protective compared to somebody who may may not really have a space in a in a conventional corner. They might be sharing space between the bikes and the pedest of space or a bicyclist who is in a class a class two um uh bike lane waiting for waiting for a light. I would I would just say yeah they they definitely provide a lot of protection.

So there's a ramp too going up. There should be like there will be a bicycle ramp.

There's different there's different ways to to design some I've seen I've assumed them with or with and without ramps.

Yeah. I mean, you can you can see they're just between these two, they're slightly different. This this one here is very very conceptual, right? Just um this is approximately what it could look like in terms of how the pedestrian would use it. If I zoom in a little bit, the pedestrian will be waiting on the sidewalk and then when they get the green, they can cross here. Right? So, this is not really a this is not big enough really for pedestrian to wait out here. They may, but um this type of design, the intention is the pedestrian would still be waiting at the corner, but this this area is a little bit less of a a conflict between the motorists. And then you can see this is slightly similar but slightly different geometry. It's really you really need to customize the design and the and everything based on every individual corner. So, this is fairly similar where the pedestrian would cross the bike lane here. Um, they could potentially wait here and then cross. So, this would be the most likely raised area. So, for the motorist, this would this would read at the edge of the the edge of the corner right here.

The push button would be on the sidewalk.

It would be on the sidewalk. Yeah, that's typically how it's done. Other ones might clear this one. Yeah, probably design. I'm not too sure. Okay. Yeah, if I could add two more benefits. Um so, um protected intersections as we're learning more about them and implementing them. Um so, one of the major focuses of safety is speed. Another one is visibility. Um, and so when you as a vehicle and you're trying to turn the corner, um, your ability to navigate that corner, um, changes with the reduced amount of space you have to navigate. So, thus reducing your speed. You can't navigate it as quickly. So, you will slow down to take. So, that helps um also um safety horizontal speed, but as well as um where bicycles place themselves as they're waiting for the light. So there's a red light, the cars are stopped, the bicyclist are stopped, but the bicyclists can put themselves ahead of the vehicle. So you can see it if you're left right is El Camino. And if I was traveling from left to right and and there's a red light, everybody stops, but then the bicycle can go all the way up to that point right there and they can wait there for the green light, giving them a head start if vehicle wants to turn right. It really provides that visibility. And even when it's green, that vehicle needs to turn at a slower speed and face that um bike lane at a more perspective at a um straight perspective.

Just kind of at an angle. So uh again, speed and safety is, you know, is the the premise behind this and those um uh elements help provide reduce speed. Yeah, I see that definitely. Clear about that.

In a scenario, wouldn't be like wouldn't the bike be crossing red?

Um so in the scenario pedestrians,

they're not crossing the red unless um until they get the green. So um there's no intersection that they're crossing. There may be be a bicyclist coming from the top to bottom. There is a green signal for pedestrians there, right? So they

they have to have to right. So I mean it's road they have yield to pedestrians

but it's a red light so it's really stop

a lot of conflict with the answer. No, I mean a lot of I agree with all. I'm just thinking, you know, a lot of times I maybe DMV sometimes really need to tell drivers on, you know, how to change their because they have they implement the rules on the DMV. I It's not the California's job. And so maybe the drivers really also need to know to tell these drivers to stop down stop a little bit when they see the junction. Yeah, it's a good Yeah. Let's move on to public comment on refill bag for the street check. I do have any members public. This is kind of a sidlight, but his comment just brought out. I rode my bike over here to the beach today and when I got to the El Camino Castro intersection and I'm waiting for the light to turn so I can cross Al Camino, there were pedestrians there as well. Very crowded actually. The pedestrians started out as soon as the green light was there. But the car that was also waiting to turn right, which we get much more now, can't cross, hardly saw that pedestrian. And actually, a pedestrian got across, but then the car went and then the rest. And so your comment about visibility and having islands and things that help the drivers remember to slow down I think are a very vital part of it because it's that visibility and we all as drivers have to remember it. I'm working right now on the what do they call it Dutch door opening where you turn around to look and see if a bicycle is coming before you open your door as you're parallel parking. So, I really appreciate that you're looking at these kinds of issues to make sure that pedestrians, bicycles can be safe. Thank you.

Do we have any members of the public on Zoom wishing to speak? All right, then we'll move any comments. if there's anything you would wish to comment on regarding actually could we put up that do you have that like list of four questions or bullets that you want us to be addressing not we can't

see I don't think I have it here I can tell you what they are though

just to remind us about action Okay. Are the answers to the checklist clear and understandable to a lay person? Has the project sufficiently incorporated complete streets recommendations outlined in adopted plans? Um, one is if an exception of the complete streets checklist is requested, is it reasonable? But we are not asking for any exceptions. And then so there's really just three. The third one is are there any additional comments related to the project if the committee had any additional things to comment on

additional um so first on the checklist I had asked some clarific questions you know that pointed to some inconsistencies sometimes on the documents referenced and maybe adding

that

there's the preise quite a bit of things and and pertinent to the alamino preise plan is also the growth that's projected for for so you know I think it's a plus for the application in fact we can see the effect of densification at the Castro at Camino because we currently have multi-storyries residential and multi-story business and then the the other two corners will soon have multi-story. So it's going to look more like a northern intersection which is kind of rare even though it's a city growing city I guess. Um and then um my comments are more in general about the intersections. So um and and mostly from the pedestrian standpoint. So um if I look at the intersections of on across El Camino uh they are some of the most challenging ones for pedestrians in the city. There there was a lot of work that had been done by catrans by repaving and and then providing things but very little anything anything really was done for pedestrians. There were a few midblock crossings but nothing was done really for pedestrians on there. There was restriping maybe some signals got improved even though they broke a few times since but there is nothing really talk about I'm going to go first to the issues with the intersections as a pedestrian on

okay

I work through these inter sections at least once a week to go to do a shift at CSA and then whenever I come here for bank so today I work wise for biggest interactions. Um the the first thing is that they are very long for for you know in distance for for pedestrians to do this. So that's not an issue for me, but I've seen many times people are kind of stuck in the middle

because they couldn't make it through in the amount of time. And if you look at most events and that's a very scary thought because except for Castro and they are not perfect. There are pretty much no safety ions there. So when people get stuck in the middle, they kind of try to go as close as possible to the sign. some for for some of them there is still a push button to try to get back in the signal of course you're stuck uh and an aggravating things is that in in a lot of intersection you know people can do U-turns so you're pretty much stuck in the middle of the intersection and with cars doing U-turns there so that's that's a scary thing the other thing that that's not ideal intersection is that it takes a very long time to cross them. Not not by distance, just waiting for the signal. So, so every time I walk, if I'm lucky, you know, everything works fine. But if I'm not lucky, it's easily five minutes to to to cross El Camino. And and crossing El Camino is often a two two-step process because I when I come here, I I kind of do a diagonal, if you will. Mhm.

I I typically cross by shoreline, but it means waiting for a phase for ever crossing shoreline and then waiting for another phase for for bit and usually I press both directions, you know, hoping that it works, but there's nothing synchronized. So you press one button, it's not coordinated to the other even though what you you want to do is there. So and five minutes it's quite a long time. uh especially if you consider that people you know need to cross at you know to go catch a bus or something like this five minute delay it's a bus um the other thing that that's far from ideal is is the lightning on the the intersections on the crosswalk so um and it's kind of a typical design I think at least in California where um you're going to have one street light of typically a signal sign uh that's going to be on one side. Um and the street is not very wide and that's sufficient to illuminate everything. First of all, it's not always really lined up with a sidewalk with a crosswalk. So sometimes it's a bit off. But with a street as El Camino with so many lines, what you wind up is to have good visibility on one side of a crosswalk and pretty much diminishing uh visibility as you you go to to the other side and sometimes it's quite dark which is not not not a good thing. The other thing that's missing on El Camino in general is also pedestrian level type of lighting. Uh, and that's important as you approach the intersections because it's a way first of all not to trip yourself to feel safe. I mean, you I work at night and you know I'm fine, but you know I'm not really somebody who you would want necessarily attack but I I can see that's a deterrent for for people that's a question of safety there. So there are a few places where you have pedestrian level I think. So that's on one side of the castro on this side I guess of the castro can do intersections. There's nothing on the other side. There's nothing really on by shoreline or by rainf pedestrian lighting. Uh and then and the pedestrian level lighting is also important to have better visibility for for bikes on the bike lines because the same issue that I described where the light is on one side and fails to eliminate everything. It means that it's pretty dark on the back line on on the opposite side of the lot. The lights are also typically pretty high up. So they are above the trees. So you pretty much you eliminate whatever lives in the trees, but it doesn't reach the pedestrians or the bikes. So So pedestrian level type of lighting is is very important for both bikes and pedestrians on on on the approach to this intersection. So um and so when I look at the the projects I I don't see much being done to address these issues. uh and uh I don't want to really script what you should be doing but I think there needs to be much more emphasis on on pedestrian

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for being proposed because I I don't see much benefits from for pedestrians in there um there could be a little bit protected things you know for for the safety there uh I think in one of the checklist it mentions kind of reducing the the length for for crossing, but I think it's that's not accurate because as a pedestrian, you'll still be waiting on the sidewalk. Um, you know, and the distance will be the same. You'll just have to cross six or seven lines of traffic and two bike lanes. Um and then um one comment I wanted to provide about these treatments where um you kind of have to also cross a bike line essentially uh there I was in in in France in Paris and Paris has done great things for bikes and so on u but um and it's still wonderful to work things like this except on crosswalks because now you a similar type of treatments where you can have a bike line little island then crossing the traffic and things like this and maybe it's specific to Parisians. I'm not from Paris so I can match them there but they never never stop. You can try eye contact, you can try arguing, you know, and I've got plenty of French people on that, but it's like they just don't stop and and it's it's actually dangerous and and frightening and and stressful, which walking shouldn't be. So So um if we go for something like this, I I would want very strict rules where, you know, red is red. uh pretty much you know the pedestrians have waited five minutes to get their their right to go. It should be respected. uh no no exceptions and and pretty much strict informant on this enforcement on this because it's it's crazy and and I'm hoping mont residents are not parishians but but some of them may be from just

agree

can I ask two clarifying things about your confidence I just share first off I was realizing this as you were mentioning some of the special things I don't walk through these intersections pull that frequently myself when it rains. Do we currently have problems with um ponding at the curb cuts?

I I don't think at the curb cuts.

Okay. So, people aren't having to step through water when it rains to

it also. This is California. Um,

and I also don't walk. And I'm trying to make sure that I understand what your comments about um conflicts between cyclists and pedestrians in the crosswalks are related to is that the the only conflict I see, which I'm not I'm not saying it's not a conflict, but the only conflict I see is that basically as cyclists are arriving at the intersection at a red light, they will cross the crosswalk where there may be pedestrians or pedestrians may have the right of way at that time to get up ahead of the drivers where they're where cyclists are supposed to stop. Is that the main spot you're referring to?

Yeah. And and the spot is really that they should be stopping to let pedestrians go. That's you know that's the rule of the road. the minutes, you know, because from again from my experience in in Paris, I mean, you know, cyclist will not stop or not or they just grace you or try to, you know, will them to to do that's just, you know, it's it's putting for good behavior and, you know,

okay, I guess my comment on that will be at similar style intersections. I've seen in downtown San Jose. I don't get the impression I've seen too many issues in that regard, but I'm also not there perhaps at the peak hours. So maybe I am I am missing something that happens when it gets really busy. Uh but I at yeah at existing protected intersections I haven't I guess I'd be curious if there's any issues people have had at that um line amphitheater or whatever we some of the Google North there are extremely high volumes of cyclists and pedestrians. I I would be curious to know if we have any issues there or if it's just working fine. If it's just working fine then I won't need to stress about these.

I think it's a different setup than this. It's more staging area.

Uh, no, that that one has it's it's it's slightly different, but I think it's a very slip style. Um,

so

yeah,

um, just to respond, I think this is really helpful input for us when we're starting to go into the design phase because I think believe that there can be treatments that we can put in that make it clear to bicyclist that they either have to stop or yield. Um, and I don't want to I mean, one one option is you could actually have it set up so that the bicyclist had to ramp up and it was almost like this the crosswalk was at. That's one example. But um you know, I don't want to promise one design or another because we haven't gotten to into that. But I think noting that we should look at designs that reduce conflicts between pedestrians and bicyclists is going to be important to put put in our notes when we're moving forward with the project. Does that make sense?

I'm going to run through a few of my comments and try to Yeah. But what what anything I want to mention on design for it gets too far along but what I think will be important for the applications themselves. I do think these are both projects these intersections as the pulls out are high priority ones for the city in terms of safety. Um and the protected elements like uh what assisted public director was calling out about reducing uh turning speeds and proving disability will help a lot for both and cyclists. I I don't use these intersections every day. I do use Central and Castro/Moffet every single day basically. And at least one of the right turns there is not great and would do a lot better if we had something that looked like this. I believe at least the Phyllis Cderon one already has no right turn on red. Um I don't know if that's I can't right now. I think that goes well with protected intersections. Um so I hope we do that. I think in terms of the project applications um I didn't have any glaring things about the nature applications themselves. Um I do I think mentioning the storm water stuff. I don't know if that actually matters for what the nominal stuff on the complete streets checklist if I can't remember if the complete streets criteria currently includes a do you have lots of letters from local organizations I know some of these grant applications do but if you're explicitly pulling out those sorts of storm water treatment things that may and reach out to like the local uh green species group or the such you might be able to get um additional support to get help Um, and it would presumably be good to do, but on its own mers. Um, but just for for the uh uh brand side itself. Um, regarding the protected intersection, I might have found myself helpful for the past few years doing a lot more two-stage left turns, which wasn't mentioned, but is actually doesn't really lose you that much time and sometimes gains you time as a cyclist just crossing in the bike lane than turning and crossing in the other bike lane. and it's a lot safer and protected intersections make that a lot nicer. Um, design element I would like to see paid attention to is whether any of the protection corners end up in a way that is hazardous to cyclists riding through. Um I I have heard I guess minor complaints about the some of the California street intersections and I've sort of felt that when I've ridden through it a few times of that the um plastic ballards can feel a bit abrupt when you're riding through and sort of force people to veer in the bike lane more sharply than they are entirely comfortable with. I don't think that's the biggest design issue. I think that those are that's still a good project to have done. I just want to pay attention to it as we go forward with this. Um I think one thing that will make the application strong and make make the projects better would be basically getting more of the bike lanes protected. Um and the spots where I see that are on northbound Castro. My impression is that a lot of the reason for retaining that parking at in those original plans was because there were businesses there at the time who were expecting customers to be able to use that parking because it had been there for a while with the Castro Commons project. That is no longer the case. There's not there are actually businesses I believe there's at least one business still there right at the moment but once it's rebuilt presumably that will correspond to a lot of change and that bike lane I'm not I'm not convinced it it I think it'll get a lot of double parking if we have it retained in its current form because that bike lane is basically wide enough to park another vehicle there a delivery vehicle or a drop off um it's you'll have people pulling in and out of parking spaces and I don't it's only like 10 to 15 spaces once you uh deal with whatever trash and recycling drop off and that sort of thing we need. So getting some way to make that protected would be amazing. Um but yeah that a lot a lot safer be make a lot safer make that stronger. Um the other spots I noticed for additional protection were potentially along Phyllis on the approach to El Camino. um where I think there might even be enough rightway to just make the northbound. I have no idea. Southbound, it looks like we probably have the right of way to do some parking protected bike lanes. I don't know if that parking is even used much right now. Um but that I think would make that project a bit stronger. Um and then I don't know what the rightway situation is for the bus stops that would might be affected by either project. I think it's mostly the Phyllis one though. But if we can make those be some form of island so that the buses that are going through are not pulling across the bike into the bike lane constantly that would make things better. I don't I don't know what the right way constraints are.

Yeah.

Um I don't know if that's something where moving the bus stop 100 feet would make the rideway better. But

yeah, the um there's a bus stop here.

Yeah. I believe actually

I think they're both on the eastern side

and then Castro. All right. Getting oriented.

Castro, it's by the

It's on the upper side. Oh,

yeah.

That's by the early design

on that top side, right side. Yeah. There.

Yeah. And then there's on the reverse. I don't know if either of those are covered by project boundaries. I also don't know if the ones that are along Castro are covered. I think there's only one on that's on southcaster that might be covered by project boundaries, but

so the the complete streets checklist also requires coordination with VTA. We submitted this exact package to VTA at the beginning of the month and be hearing back from them by the end of the month.

Um we talked about that exact question. Should we consider this? Um, and we generally felt that that would make it a much much bigger project. And it also would need a lot of approval from VTA if they weren't. We don't even know if ETA is willing to move forward with that type of design. You would most likely need to take right away in order to provide the full transit boarding island width. It just becomes a much bigger project. So, we're we're waiting to see what what EPA says, but at this point in time, we were not intending on building transit boarding islands with these projects, even though there's there's transit right adjacent.

I don't know if you can put back the pass.

So, that would be pretty much the the left side for, you know, at the bottom left there. of things there. There is you know where where the chess building is. I think part of it is also part of that project will move the bike kind of inside and separated from from the bus.

Yeah, there there is a design there is a project

kind of thing but it's

so will this design will integrate into the development that's happening on that corner. And I know that the the bus stops at Castro are more important than the ones at Phyllis because they are also 522 stops.

Yeah,

they are.

So, but anyways, that is it's good to at least that discussion is happening. It's happening. Um but yeah um other things I want make sure you touch on uh for the project I mean the uh along Phyllis itself there's currently just some striping that sort of provides the lane width. I'm not sure if it would make sense to uh sort of on southbound Phillis coming out of the intersection there's just striping to to define the width of the southbound lane. I'm not sure if it makes sense to try to provide some to make sure that lane was narrow enough that people were less likely to speed down Phyllis the stop sign. I don't I don't know how necessary that is. I'll mention an essay thing to consider. Um

could you just repeat the

southbound Ph. Yeah,

there's one lane of through traffic for vehicles.

Um the asphold itself is quite wide. Um, and so there's just some diagonal striking to to define where cars are not supposed to go. However, that means that there's physically sort of a car can still go pretty fast through there even though the lane I don't know how exactly there the lane's going to be. So I don't I don't

I will point out that this is a very conceptual sketch.

Yep. I know.

And

it may not look exactly like

Yeah. So note it.

Understood. Uh And then

what what I heard from that is you want to ensure that there's not excess pavement in the

excess pavement. There's not that the we've had a couple discussions at recent meetings about about lane narrowing like making sure that we are we're doing what we can to reduce the speeds like we're checking all the boxes the the different tools we have to reduce vehicle speeds to improve safety. So, your primary goal is to reduce vehicle speeds through geometric measures.

That that is what I'm getting at. Yes. And I'm calling out specific sign outs that

that could could potentially do.

Yep. Um, thank you for that summation. Um and the last thing that was on my mind was that I don't know it for integrating with other plans making sure that we have whatever good access is for that po that or place um Fairmont I believe on the Castro project. Um I I don't know if some curb cut is in order of the session by good access between the bike path and the sale but having good access so that we have a good network will be desirable I'm sure

I suspect that will be part of the development project as opposed to this project but not

anything addressing there

but as as I said good project to be doing I I ride through circle right through the castron upon regularly I don't walk through these intersections was quite as strict of myself but

yeah to the picture weird

um I'm wondering whether it's I mean part of the obligation to get this funding

that you know or even you know whether Mountain View or any other city has even thought about these the green lines green lines on the streets

but for those and also these uh these laws also permit these bicyclists to make left turns. So once they get out of these green green pathways and then for El Camino such a busy path they want to go into the left cast that Castro I'm not sorry.

Yes.

Yeah. They want to go into there and then so they have to make a you know they have to do their hand signals you ebikes have to go do go hand signals and then pass all these cars in order to go into the left line I mean left lane and then and so is it part of obligation for mountain view or or any kind of or even just rule some kind of rule to say to make that facilitate that kind of a

well I would say a design like this with a protected intersection it facilitates a different way of making that turn. So, it allows the bicyclist to come across the street and then wait. And actually, there's typically the way you design it is there's enough space for a bicyclist to wait out of the way of the through bicyclists and then set themselves up to go across the street when they get the greed. So, it's a two-stage left turn like James was mentioning. Um if you that doesn't preclude someone who is a very um avid adventurous you know vehicular cyclist from crossing the three lanes of traffic and and waiting at this at the at the left turn lane and all of the left turn lanes should have a detection that would detect bicyclist so they would trigger the left and they could go on the green. Um, I haven't biked enough on El Camino to see how many people do that in Mountain View, but my experience is that very few people will actually do that because of the volumes, because of the speeds and because of the number of lanes and most people typically do that that that left,

the two stage

when there's that many lanes, the the two two stage left turns. And if this was a one one and one, yes, you'd see more people doing that. about it at something with this traffic volume and volume number of lanes. So exactly so to facilitate that for the bicyclists who feel comfortable doing that if you know you can see I I don't remember exactly what it looks like now with the at this particular location. But if there's a break in advance, you know, of the intersection, they could then get out of the class 4 bike lane, safely move across, and then of course there's the, you know, the the detection that allows them to turn. And that is the limit of the facilitation that typically provided on a road like this

with with a with a you know with a long-term kind of a perspective uh with common street that they want to implement and then you know for more bikes you know more bikes on the street uh all over the place and then in groups a lot of kids you know that bike and there's all squish there and then they just want to make a left turn going through that way you know

this is a this is the student um this is a school intersection. There's a lot of students who use this and so we're going to be looking even more closely at the how people are currently using this and what

what types of behaviors we want to accommodate and facilitate when we're doing the design. Yeah, that's one thing I want to make sure I mention that in my question. Yeah, people may come from apartment complex like right on the corner and so kid may come out on the sidewalk on their bike because they're coming straight out of the apartment complex or the such

and so making sure that's safe is I think but anyways

so I had one question on this diagram actually. So if you look at the the kind of dotted kind of black line next to the crosswalk across El Camino,

right? like the cross one way or

these would be one way. Yeah, that's the intention.

Yes, I've seen some like this on by Rangorf that are used both ways and I don't blame them because there is no crosswalk on the other side but

you know that's not right.

No. Yeah.

Yeah. Rang has only one. So I can see that. But they wind up on and then they keeping

on door.

It's certainly possible to do that given the the appropriate signalization and the appropriate infrastructure going in in either direction. But I don't think we had considered that for this or or Castro because they're crossing.

Yeah. I think it's why not with you know.

Okay. Thank you.

What I'm hearing is

describing a possibility.

He likes having it on both legs.

Yes. Okay. And you like one one way crossbite.

And then I had two two more comments if I may. So one is to reiterate that whenever possible we should put no right on red. These are very busy intersections. Both of them have school you know part of a lot of school. I mean if we have to put it anywhere that's there and and I don't know Kran seems to be okay with putting some you know they let us put some there and I think these are great places to do this and then the other thing too is it's pretty inconsistent across El Camino regarding turns there are like at shorine you cannot do one but you can do one at Castro which to me doesn't make any sense I mean it's a much busier and much more open things and and honestly I I don't I don't think another of another city where we will have like this type of dubs on

such a on such a street. So, and I'm not sure what leeway, you know, Mountain View has to to kind of ban that because I think it would simplify uh you know, pretty much the movements there wouldn't be as scary when people get stuck in the middle of crosswalk, you know, because people can can do that type of thing. And I think it may actually speed up traffic because when somebody does a U-turn, they kind of prevent people want to do a left turn because they have to do it very slowly.

I think it's and anything that that can reduce the type of movement is a good thing. I think sections there's anything they want to move on to the next item.

All right.

Okay. Great. So,

did you want to summarize? I need

I have lots of notes. I'm not going to summarize all of them, but I will tell you the next steps. I'm going to take these notes, put them together, um, and attach those notes to the final checklist that we submit to MTC through their online portal,

right?

So, this information is going to be packaged and sent with the grant application.

And then we find out if we did or did not receive this grant.

Probably in like the initial would be, so it's a little weird. initial would be probably September time frame. Oc probably September time frame

we get selected by VTA to go to FT.

That's that's the first cut.

Yeah. Yeah.

So VTA is nominating projects. They're nominating 120% of the total amount of budget that is expected to be allocated to VTA and then that goes up to MTC and MTC makes the final decision.

So we'll know if we make it past round one. Yeah.

But then we go to round two. Yeah. So I would say final I think it's probably going to be January, February, so maybe December. So in the winter

um

is it decided by the vote or

No, it's decided by the MTC.

Yeah. Well, it's two steps. The answer is yes. The first step is it's it's basically like round one and round two. So first we have to pass round one with VTA and if we do that VTA will move it up to MTC and then MTC will select from what what VTA provides. Southern California.

I think these are very good projects, but I think we are also competing against some other very very strong candidates. And I think there's probably going to be about 30 to 35 projects that are submitted to VTA. And um

it's very competitive.

Yeah. But I I think there's a lot going for these projects um well where they will be really compelling and we're going to do our best to write an exceptional grant application.

Do we allocate a bit by geography like

technically? Yes. Well, you can

there's a provision specifically in BT's grant guidelines about how many applications they can nominate from San Jose itself. Well, I think

it doesn't say from San Jose.

I think we they can't end up nominating more than half of their 120% from any one jurisdiction. Um and my understanding is that that exists because San Jose uh presented a lot of good projects one year and got a very large percentage of the projects who were nominated

but there's no minimum requirement be able to get a project. However, for the SB 63 did make that request that when BTA gets to distribute if that passes ballot that that was one of the recommendations from Mountain View was that it was allocated by into jurisdictions it was competitive more competitive is it is to get back anyway. Anyways, let us move on to item 6.3, the draft fiscal year 2026 to 27 and tentative agenda list.

Thank you. All right, my item as well. So, we do this every year. This is the first time I've done it. Um, this is an action to accept the bicycle and pedestrian advisory committee's draft fiscal year 2026 2027 work plan. And then my understanding it then goes up to city council for the final approval for all of the all the committees. So um as you know I did email thank you uh to the chair to suggest that I do this. I emailed the committee asking if you would be want to submit one to potential requests for the work plan. um specifically looking at requests that are within the purview of the BPAC and um you know the BPAC bylaws as well as BPAC's advisory role to city council and we did get some requests and I'm going to walk through generally

yeah it's pretty good

so yeah I guess you can read that um so I just wanted to kind of uh share you how I addressed in the work plan because of the timing I didn't have a lot of time to circle back with individual steps staff to confirm. Can I put this specific item in the work plan? So, what you'll see is I have a general item, but I don't have bullets underneath it saying we'll do this, we'll look at this, look at this. And that's purely because I did not actually have the time to confirm and I didn't want to promise something. Uh, right. But, um, so we'll start just uh this is in no order. The on the left is a summary of the request. On the right is how uh we accommodated it in the work plan. So uh establish a no right turn on red policy and start implementation. So I added to the work plan item nine update BP on implementation of the active transportation plan policies and programs. The no right turn on red. That acronym is not the right acronym. Sorry keep on doing that.

Turn on red.

That's what it is. Red.

Thank you. um it is recommended by the public review draft uh to to uh evaluate a policy for that. So I thought that could fit under that and that's true with many of these things as well. Um so small scale projects that can be implemented quickly without full roadway repaving. We can we can look at um I think we could potentially put something like that under the uh update BPAC on the implementation of the ATP. we can potentially explore this would this would be in future CIPs. Uh is there a a mechanism or an opportunity to have a a funding source to do those types of projects? Um there was a request on the project tracking dashboard status. So I talked to Allison about that and she indicated there is a larger citywide effort to have a project dashboard. So, we would update on a under like a staff um staff update when and if that I should say when that gets developed. So, we didn't add it to the work plan because it would just be a staff update. Um we had some questions on bike parking. So, converting some street parking into secure bicycle offers and then best practices for bicycle parking ordinances. We do have under the um ATP policies and programs a recommendation to update the bike parking standards. So I think these two fit really nicely under that. Um a study session to compare students cycling education encouragement programs across local cities. We are going to be developing a safer to school program for adoption in the upcoming year. And so I think we can we can wrap um how do I want to say this? I don't think we're going to be doing a full-on study session to do this, but certainly there will be some looking at how different cities are implementing their education and their encouragement programs and how they're being or not being effective. And that can get wrapped into the development of the of the program. I also want to mention that the Santa Clara County Public Health Department does convene in quarterly meetings with safe school providers. Mountain View participates and this type of cross agency evaluation is completely in their wheelhouse. So we can reach out to the county public health department and see if they have something moving forward, some information. Perhaps they would even have a webinar, something we could invite the BPAC to. So, I think there's opportunities to provide um uh to rely on other agency efforts to give the BPA um some of this information that doesn't um fully burden you know staff because this would be a lot to put together a full comparison.

All right, the last two um I think these two uh we were able to slip in specifically. So, coordinate with city departments and advisory bodies and other jurisdictions within the county on trans uh and other agencies on pedestrian and bicycling matters. So, um we already have item G in the work plan and we added a a bullet talking about better communication and coordination between commissions. Um so if you are interested in having conversations with individual members of other other city committees we can certainly make introductions and and start having you can have those those informal conversations. So um and we can look into if there's an opportunity if if there makes sense to have some sort of joint meeting. I don't think in our recent past we are aware of a joint meeting that's happened but um all right and then last was a request to share more opportunities to volunteer at city- le education encouragement events and also include some more walking events. So, we did add to the list the walk to school day that we host. And so, if we have other uh walking related opportunities, we'll certainly make those aware to this committee. So, that said, that summarizes what you see in the work plan. Um, and this is the recommendation. The work plan is in your packet. And I guess we can that's the end of my presentation. Is there is there anything notable to share on the towel?

I think one thing I'd like to point out on the towel is that our next meeting would be on the 18th which was is a little bit of a shift there and we appreciate you guys working with us there. Um there are some uh meetings that are lighter or don't have anything quite on the agenda yet. So, we'll continue to populate that um or cancel it if not. Um is there anything else?

Oh, we did add a column for se consent information and action to kind of give you guys an idea of what we're envisioning. If um there's something you're thinking differently, we're open to that. That's it. Do we have any clarifying questions on the draft board and how do you have any comments uh in person comments from members of the public on the the draft work or this physical physical?

Do we have any public comments online regarding the draft work? Okay, then I guess we'll move to any DAG comments and a motion will be in order for um uh accepting or accepting the draft for is it recommending it to council whatever or accepting the staff recommendation or

oh I'm sorry

put that back up

actually sorry I did have a different question will the the slides from both this and from the um PD presentation will any of those be shared or made available after the meeting or just in the recording

after the fact as part of the attachment legisl I I appreciate the uh doing some of those like advance to get some input. I think that's made this more uh a bit more useful than some prior years when we've tried to have the discussion about this. I obviously not everything got committed to but I think that hopefully that represents some sense of what I think that we're interested about that

and and I will say it's helpful too as we get into our CIP here knowing where you'd like to see time and what comes back.

Yeah. And I note a couple of those are things I've heard BPAC members either myself or others uh ask for multiple times over the years. The uh the the having a consistent dashboard of ongoing projects has been a request for longer than I've been on BPAC. Um

it's in the works. We are working. I I don't know exact timing on that, but we it's it not as easy as we would like it to be, but we are working through it. I I I think we figured that out from how long for people asking for it. So I provide some context there. I know I've heard in the past um requests for more discussions with with parks because so many of our trails and critical back infrastructure on parks. Um and I know I was personally interested in the uh more any more uh projects built so we can get more quickly. Um, and that I don't know if that goes to the TDA3 funding or other internships, but I'm I'm happy to accept the uh uh staff recommendation. Anyone wants to move that?

So, we need a motion.

Motion, a second, and a vote. Sure. So I move that we approve both the draft 26 27 work plan and adoptive agenda.

Second.

I can second that.

Okay. And all in favor of vote I

passes and unanimously with three. Um

and I believe that moves us to item 7.1 of staff comments.

Right. So we do have a presentation Joy Hen on the route 237 middlefield road interchange improvements and Robert do you want me I can I can just open it. Yeah since I'm already up in the And I guess as a as a note, I believe we're not expecting like in-depth discussion on this or the substance. That's anformational update.

Yes, it is. And oh it

yes I will good evening chair and committee members. My name is Joey Hton, senior civil engineer, joined tonight by Robert Gonzalez, principal civil engineer in public works, and we're here to present updates on the State Route 237 and Middlefield Road interchange improvement project. To start with a little bit of background, Middlefield Road shown vertically on this slide in a north south direction um between Log Avenue and the eastbound 237 offramp is very challenging due to the number and close proximity of signalized intersections in a relatively short stretch of roadway. This results in a high collision rate and a challenging environment for pedestrians and bicyclists. The intent of the project is to reduce collision conflicts and improve pedestrian and bicycle mobility and connectivity. This project started two decades um ago starting in 2005 um whoopsie sorry where am I going? In 2005 when Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority or VTA um solicited city support regarding highway projects in their valley transportation or VTP um VTP uh valley transportation plan or VTP 2023 um which includes the state route 237 and middlefield road interchange. Cal Trans approved the project study report that included this same interchange um in 2013 and up to this date the project was theoretical with no funding available for the subsequent phases. Um, whoopsie. Why did it do that? Sorry. um until 2019 when city council approved the capital project the state route 237 and middlefield road interchange improvements project um and appropriated 5.5 million from um of the community benefit funds received from the first phase of a development project in the area and authorized execution of a funding agreement with VTA for project management services for the project approval and environmental document and final design phases of the project. In 2020, VTA initiated the project and developed preliminary alternatives. And since then, the project initiation uh since project initiation, the project team has been in coordination with CALR since u the project impacts their rightway and operation to gain approval prior to starting the final design phase. And to set the stage, uh, Middlefield Road is a four-lane roadway with four signalized intersections, um, spaced approximately 300 ft apart in the project area between Log Avenue and the eastbound 237 offramp, which contributes to a high rate of broadside collisions. In particular, the collision rate at the westbound 237 middlefield and frontage road intersection exceeds the statewide average for an intersection of this type. The 237 um intersection operates as a partial interchange only having an eastbound off-ramp and a westbound on-ramp um compared to a full interchange with on and off ramps in both directions um with the other interchange movement happening at the partial interchange at Mod Avenue. There are continuous bike two class 2 bike lanes and four to six foot wide sidewalks on both sides of Middlefield Road within the project limits. Um and then east of Middlefield Road sidewalks, the class 2 bike lanes do exist along the north and south side of the westbound and eastbound frontage roads um respectively. And the project area is located near the Wisman light rail station um shown at the top of the spa uh top of the page and is significantly constrained for bikes and peds um with the Cal Train corridor acting as a north south barrier while the 237 acts as an east west barrier. The project objectives and goals include reducing the frequency and severity of collisions along Middlefield Road between Log and the eastbound 237 offramp intersections. improving pedestrian and bicycle accommodations and access, enhancing accessibility and connectivity to transit, strengthening connections to local roadways and plan developments in the area, and optimizing the use of the existing right of way. In 2020, the project team completed the preliminary investigative phase of the project to support the development of the anal and analysis of six alternatives. The alternatives were reviewed and scored by the project team and um and VTA and CALR by TED subject matter experts um based on categories including pedestrian and bicycle improvements, safety, environmental, traffic operations, rightway and geometrics. the the criteria categories were weighed based on their alignment um with the goals and objectives of the project and based on various reasons um such as Calrans did approval of a new connection to their main line. Um some of those alternatives were eliminated and staff is recommending alternative three. The conceptual design for the staff recommended alternative um alternative three shown on the screen here includes the following improvements. Um installation of traffic calming features along the westbound frontage road including raised medians, pavement markings, radar feedback signs, landscaping in narrow travel lanes. Construction of class 4 bikeways and widened sidewalks along the westbound frontage road between Middlefield Road and Ma Avenue. Installation of class 4 bikeways and six foot wide sidewalks on Middlefield Road and protected intersection improvements at the intersection of Ferguson westbound 237 on-ramp and the eastbound 237 offramp. In addition, um this alternative includes what we refer to as technology improvements at the intersection and they include signal interconnect, signal timing optimization and modified traffic signal operations with separate um phases for bikes and peds. Um these improvements will help reduce vehicle speeds, improve visibility and predict uh predictability of bicycle and pedestrian crossings and reduce exposure areas and conflicts between turning vehicles and vulnerable road users. With the completion of the bio biodiversity and urban forest plan, the project team will look for opportunities for inclusion of landscaping and green storm water in the project and continue in the final design. Project is currently in the project approval environmental document or P AED phase which is anticipated to be completed by the end of this year. This phase will be followed by the final design phase expected to begin next year and conclude in summer of 2028 which will be followed by a two-year construction period. The project cost for the staff recommended alternative is 24.8 million as summarized on the screen. The project is fully funded um through final design utilizing measure B VTA measure B funds um and city community benefit fund. The project budget includes a total of 22.5 million in VTA measure B highway program funds. Um this combined with the city funds is sufficient to support the construction of the project. Staff did present the project update and the staff recommended alternative to the CTC just last week on June 16, 2026. and the CTC um recommended that the city council approve the staff recommended design concept for the project as our next step. Um staff will forward a recommendation to city council for approval of the recommended alternative in fall of 2026 and once approved by city council staff will proceed into final design upon completion of the PAED fee. And that concludes my presentation. And is this the extent of the sort of staff presentation section?

I will have to under staff two very quick things so you can have the conversation about this item and then at the end

if we have any brief questions since this is not sort of a normally scheduled item it's just update we can take some questions if

you could show the yeah this diagram here. So I had one question. I I see that there is kind of a safety island at the the crosswalk at the bottom but not that you warm on top.

Um

what I'm noticing is that there are left turn movements at the the top and the middle islands versus the bottom one doesn't have the left turn movements. uh going north.

So it may be to accommodate those turns

from from Ferguson to north or not but onto middle field.

Off middle field.

Off middlefield.

Yes. Because what's on the bottom left here is an eastbound off ramp. So it's only going in what direction.

No left turns into that uh roadway from Middlefield Road. So, you know, having a safety island,

it may be hard to to accommodate those turning movements if there were refuge islands, but that's something we can take a look at

design a bit further up. So, I just it just caught my eye. Uh and then the the other thing too is that you you mentioned that one of the reason for this project is that there were lots of broadside type of crashes. So I have to assume that some of them are because people ride on red, you know, and and I'm wondering if that would be a good opportunity to kind of ban those because they that's a dangerous maneuver. uh when you have that many lanes and speed it's a very costcentric stretch of road

a lot of the vehicular conflicts were that were identified are just a combination of vehicular speeds and I think driver behavior with the closely spaced signalized intersections. Um the improvements are meant to address um lowering vehicle speeds at the at the intersection and also shortening those crossing distances for for bikes and peds. But if there are desires for no turn on right, that's something we can bring up. These intersections are owned and operated by CALR. Um so they would be subject to CALR approval. Anyway, I would be to have no right on right anywhere because it's that's the way works.

It's much safer. And you said the pling is coming from the 2016 metrop highway

highway because it is an interchange.

Yeah. just you said I wanted to make sure I answered that correctly and I yeah I think he didn't call out here but I believe this is the literally the intersection that has the highest number of like vehicle fatalities in the city or something like that in division zero or local road safety plan it is quite high

I don't know if it was the highest but it was yes it was substantial

yeah so it's it's I think it's actually pass I think these will reduce vehicle speeds I think it's significant did I interpret this report to CTOC correctly that a significant number of collisions were people running red lights just straight through the intersection

due to red light violations.

Yeah. Yeah. And not like turning right. It's just people just driving straight through. Correct.

Yeah. You're trying to make the light.

Yeah.

Um I would going back to the median comment, I would just add that along with looking at incorporating a median island or refuge island. Um the other kind of other other design alternative that is also al also looked at is simply giving pedestrians a longer green light to cross the intersection so they're not stuck in the bus. We don't get pedestrians having to wait through an entire cycling. So that's another design accommodation. It's a little bit different than El Camino because El Camino is so preferential to volume going up and down El Camino. Those crossings can be very long. This one here, we have a little bit more latitude to complete.

Reminds me also something that could occur there that has happened on camera is that sometimes the the lights go on the fridge and that's pretty much you pretty much have to do two step crossing by foot if you crazy enough to to have to do it. But it's there's no way to cross in one one sitting because when when the lights don't work, it's very much a four-way stop.

Yes. Just Yes.

Yeah. So, this project does include updating as as Joy mentioned the technology. So, hopefully we won't have those same same considerations.

We will make sure that the pedestrian phase um is accommodated with the appropriate amount of time to

defin and I don't know what

that was not fun at all that is that's an electrical or or what happened there but upgrading the signals will help

make sure that we've got the right there

and my one other clarifying question was just on the cost I know in the CTC member I think I may have emailed you about there was some numbers that maybe I just they mapped different things I expected I saw Some spots alternative to three said construction cost of 2.4 million and then the table you showed had like construction cost was 11 point something and the total was 24. Was I I that confused me? um is

the I don't recall if it was two or three million um but that was the original that was the cost for the original alternative three which only considered the cost of technology only improvements. When the other alternatives were eliminated, we refined alternative 3 and included um improvements, bike pit improvements along Middlefield Road as well as the westbound frontage road because that was part of um the con one of the conflicting movements that was creating the higher than statewide average um okay

conflicts at the intersection.

Okay, that that helps. So that's where we have the 11 something million construction cost and the 24.8 includes divine costs and right away and other things.

Okay. Thank you.

Anything else?

Just curious here is no term no right of bread. Is that just um it's just only existed or only based on you guys' likeness that uh only because it should be there only because bicycles are are riding or is it just is it common to going to be for the future

for try and interpret.

So I think uh the question is when do we apply right no right on red. Yeah. What would it

And um so that is one of the policies that we have put forth in the active transportation plan and we will further evaluate a more a metric for what what we look at as we um add signage and enforcement for no ride on red. No ride on red is can be safer for pedestrians, bicycles and vehicles. So it we'll have to look at all that. based on speed, but it also can change traffic patterns. So, all of that will have to be evaluated at location. So, it's not a blanket. We can put it everywhere. We will have to evaluate on a case by case basis. And as part of the ETP, we're going to come up with some sort of more um scientific method of how we uh apply those that signage. So, study is going to be done.

Should we move to the remainder of our presentation? Thank you.

What's up? Yeah, the parks and buildings probably.

So, two updates. First one, I want to provide an update on the community shuttle service. Okay. And I'm going to read. So, uh, the shuttle services for Mountain View Community Shuttle and MVGO have been suspended since June 18th due to the expiration of the shuttle operators California Public Utilities Commission License, CPU. The shuttle operator, Drive View, is taking steps to restore their state certification. The Mountain View Transportation Management Association, who manages the shuttle operator, does not have a firm date for when the shuttle services will be restored. Um, per the uh Mountain View Transportation Management Association, Uber vouchers are available to riders due to the service disruption, the Uber vouchers for shuttle riders are only usable for trips within Mountain View and during the shuttle service operating hours and that is the completeness of the information I have for you. Um, I also wanted to mention that the council neighborhoods committee meeting is happening tomorrow night uh serving the bringstof uh shoreline San Antonio

San Antonio community. It will be held at the Redwood Room Mountain View Community Center at 6:30 p.m. This is an opportunity for community members to ask questions of staff and have staff answer those questions live and in person. And those are my two staff updates.

The remainder of the staff update.

I'm wondering how an operator can use their license, but it's not the question for you. So

yeah, there will be there will be a full postmortem once in transportation. That seems to be there.

Yes, you must be happy about this, right?

All right. Um, then do we have any public comments on any of the staff report?

Anything online?

No.

No.

All right. Uh, and there's no action required, I guess. Any um Okay, then we'll move to item 7.2 two committee uh comments. So, I will provide the DAP pack update.

I have your slides. Let me open them up. Thought I had your slide.

There were two meetings since our prior meeting since we did not I believe have a May pack meeting. My memory is gone.

Oh my gosh. Okay. I don't want Hold on a second. Oh, it did. Okay, this is actually good because I'm I'm going into teams to get the slides and I just didn't want to There it is. Apologies. I download this. just never mind authenticator. It's just couple more steps.

I'll do it. I can do it.

I can just give this verbally. We will figure out the technology for the next meeting. We'll do practice run through figure out how to do this. Um, okay. So, I have it open and move it over. Can I actually move it? Oh,

all right. So, at the May BGTA meeting, there were a variety of items. I tried to call out the interesting ones here. Um, they included a update on the congestion management program reporting on consent which is interesting because there's some funding for the VTA sauce to maintain level of service standards regarding congestion. Um even though other aspects of state law have made it so that uh there's less reliance on the whole service standards I'm not actually entirely clear myself on how much flexibility VTA has to define those standards itself bill. There's also an update on some of the OPAC 3 funded projects including um our I believe our Moffett and middlefield streets projects which are receiving OAC 3. Um there's another SB633 uh local funding plan update. SBD63 is the refers to the uh transit sales tax ballot measure which I'm not actually sure if it's officially qualified for the ballot in November yet, but it I believe it's expected to because they submitted a large number of signatures. Um and it is SB63 is not as immediately relevant for um like active transportation infrastructure projects since it's mostly focused on transit itself. Transit obviously tends to interact well with active transportation. Um and most of the BPAC input on that was encouraging the focus on uh transit overall transit service levels like running lots of buses and trains and transit speed and things like transit signal priority. um which is indeed most a lot of the focus of the draft. Um there are some items in the local funding plan about uh innovation based programs though that are not necessarily just focused on uh the service itself and more focused on exploring new technology. Um there was then a update on a very preliminary or like not a yeah not a real finalized thing related to the PONA corridor which is a rail corridor that serves the permanent quarry peront shutting down the rail line is less need to exist but it turns out that it'll actually still exist for a while because uh the part phase 2 extension is actually using the rail corridor for uh dumping dirt from the tunnels as far as from what I understand. Um, but

so are they going to dump it over here?

I think so. I'm not I didn't ask I I think it was mentioned at the meeting, but my memory is not serving me quite well enough right now.

I don't know.

There was some discussion at the preack meeting about whether it would make more sense, whether it's we should be preserving the rail corer for transit in spots where the rightway is really narrow and not trying to actually decommission the rail line entirely. But that was not really the VTB call to make. So as I said, that project is various. If you're interested in it, go look up the project. Uh and the next slide, the June meeting was a special meeting for reviewing OAG 4 complete streets checklist like we did earlier in this meeting, but for any cities or projects that were not able to make it to their city specific packs. So, we had 13 total items, I believe, and we just ran through them as quickly as we could. Um, uh, it helped that there was a batch of five projects for each of the county expressways for doing feasibility studies on class one bike paths along those corridors. Um, and there are a variety of projects that listed there. Um, some of all of which are at slightly different stages. Um, I will say one of the things that made many of the checklists weaker was that some of them lacked the detail to even make it clear what the scope of the project was when you were reading the checklist or the checklist plus the attachments that were provided in the meeting. Um, and some of the projects also uh seemed like they were delayed or put in infrastructure that was less old and abilities due to community input. There was a relatively interesting one in the case of Saratoga Mayale Road where the staff specifically referenced not putting in vertical delineation due to some local uh the local feedback they got from some cyclists was that they actually prefer not to have delineation. That is a corridor that is currently primarily used by recreational cyclists. Uh which was interesting to hear so I called it out here. Um, and I'd say the best looking applications were generally those that seemed like they would be most likely to get to construction quickly, had well- definfined scope, so you knew what was going to happen uh when the project happened and which also clearly focused on safety improvements uh rather than I don't know being a bigger project that only had safety or such as a small piece of it. Um, I I guess the ADA transition plan actually was a strong one that wasn't necessarily safety improvements per se, but actually I thought was a very strong project because it had planned scope.

Yeah. And I think to I think uh Lauren's assessment of our projects earlier is probably fair in terms of where we were standing relative to what at least I've seen. We have some good projects in our OPAC in our bag applications, but there's a lot of other projects out there. So, we'll see. But also, how you fill out the grant application clearly does matter

to give grace to the applicants. The timeline

Oh, yes.

The timeline for filling out the streets checklist was kind of very short.

Yeah. Um because I think the application it was it was just a few weeks like three weeks or something.

Yes. We also heard concern mentions that apparently the MTC portal was actually very difficult to use. Um so there was it sounds like literally it was difficult to go in and reword things or revise things.

Oh interesting. Okay.

That may have varied by applicant. I don't know.

I think it might have varied by applicant. I haven't had those issues, but I it does take, you know, that Thank you. Yes. You're like, plan for it and we will. Um I I think MTC is understanding what it means to review and accommodate I don't know what do you think 200 250 projects. So because it's the whole nine county Bay Area that's applying for the projects going through that portal

in a very short amount of time they I mean

yeah it was self-inflicted.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe on purpose.

Yeah. The the San Jose project was listed there. I think that was a situation where Santa went through most of their check with the V pack. Then this project they realized last minute that they wanted to apply for funding because it was a good opportunity. So they sent it to the VTA BP pack and that one included very little detail in the in the checklist. I suspected but I suspect that's SOA. They may have just the week or a few days before basically to do it. Anyways,

they'll fill out they'll fill out by the time they're due.

Were there any questions on on BTV?

I've been surprised about the expressway projects. I mean are were they like for

it's for feasibility studies so it's a very early stage it was a explore class one bike as along

oh okay so so it's to provide and pedestrian improvement on expressway funding on express

yeah sorry I didn't make that clear in my

yes it was it was for bike and uh pen projects

and then to the extent that DTA can propose projects and they or be one deciding do they get kind of they get

um so the way the way the

I've I've participated in several of the scoring committees FTA and if your jurisdions's project comes up you recuse yourself you don't even you don't even speak about the project and you often will leave the room or leave Zoom

and so you will not actually score or have the ability to

defend your project and that's for they do that for any of them.

So that's at VIPC level or you know

well that's at the first

yeah BT does the first round of scoring and so they'll convene a scoring um group to do the work and they'll ask people to recuse themselves from their projects. Remind me though usually when PTA has it they it's not made up of only BT staff.

Oh okay.

Yeah. Sorry. We've had members from Mountain View. We've had staff from Mountain who who participated as scoring members of grant applications. So when our grants go in, they can't score ours just like BTA members can't score theirs. But it is made up of all of the

county represented. That makes sense.

And I didn't Yeah, I should have clarified.

You were completely right. They request volunteer staff to do.

So we try as Mount View, we try and pull somebody on there. Okay, I can do it.

We We've had

It's actually really excellent. If you're ever getting into transportation as a career, it's a really excellent way to sort of see how grant applications can be done really well and not so well. Yeah.

And then it helps us as we move forward. We know what our

college is a majority Republican or Democrat.

Yes.

All right. Um, is there any are there any other committee updates regarding things in the community or the

Yeah, I had one. I think I heard that there was a a big grants that the city got for uh both housing and and transportation and I'm not sure if you have details on on what the transportation part is.

I do and I don't have them right in front of me so I I want to be careful. Um, I believe you're referring to the AS6 grant that we receive.

Yeah, whatever.

It is a large It is a large grant. It is for a development on a city-owned property that will be be primarily low um income. I believe we are using some of that money for Middlefield, but I'm not I'm

we'd have to go back and look, but basically,

yeah, um the way it worked is it had to be a project within a half mile radius of the development and we got additional points in the grant application for adding um bus stops. So, I think we added there's several bus stops being added. There's a couple shuttle stops being added as well. And then it aligns with a bike project we already had as part of our CIP. So, that helps on some of our funding for other projects now that that freeze up.

So, the housing is on Evelyn. So,

it is it is on Evelyn. That is correct. Yeah. Um I guess procedurally any members of the public online to comment on this committee comments.

Nope. Okay. With that we will move to item eight. The date and time of the next meeting is at is August 18th a Tuesday which is abnormal. Um so make sure that's on your calendars. We then have additional meetings in September and future months as normal. Um, and with that, we are adjourned at 8:40 p.m.

Great. Thank you.

Very good job on the time.

Thank you.